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I wish Fuel would have expounded a little on his reason for folding.
In the moment of play I had the exact same thought process $mokee had. So exact it’s scary. I decided to push to force out the other two players. The original player had pocket 5’s for the flopped set. I hit my K on the river for a bigger set. Still didn’t manage to win though because the chip leader called preflop gambling it up with Ad7d. His flopped nut flush was enough to win the hand after he called my all in re-raise.
Second guessing myself afterwards I was convinced I made the wrong play here. With four of us seeing that flop and since I wasn’t re-raised a set or straight draw is very possible. That flop should have been scary even if their wasn’t the three diamonds. Since I had the second nut flush draw I figured it was worth the play at the time. I’m still a little undecided on what the right course of action should have been.
I guess that’s why this game hasn’t been solved yet.
This is a hand from a tournament I played in the other night. I’ve been debating with myself whether I played this hand right postflop so I’ve decided to ask for input.
The hand occurs after were already in the money but it’s still early after the money bubble.
Full Tilt Poker Game #5221922500: $5 + $0.50 Tournament (38945611), Table 16 - 600/1200 Ante 150 - No Limit Hold’em - 1:00:58 ET - 2008/02/12 Seat 1: delmop (25,759) Seat 2: Dannydm (39,903) Seat 3: williams1 (82,255) Seat 4: Jhouse1968 (38,512) Seat 5: Montezuma67 (29,326) Seat 7: dooce_kikker (32,450) Seat 8: Jordan4523 (29,720) Seat 9: lifesagrind (34,505) antes 150 dooce_kikker posts the big blind of 1,200 The button is in seat #5 *** HOLECARDS *** Dealt to lifesagrind [KsKd] lifesagrind raises to 3,600 Dannydm calls 3,600 williams1 calls 3,600 dooce_kikker calls 2,400
As you can see my raises were getting plenty of respect.
*** FLOP *** [9d Td 5d] dooce_kikker has 15 seconds left to act dooce_kikker bets 28,700, and is all in
This guy took all of his time to make this play. I’m next to act so I have a tough decision to make.
What do you do?
I have plenty of options here and I’m not sure I made the right one. I’m not troubled about the decision because of the outcome. I’m troubled because it was a tough spot. I also feel a little lost on what the correct play is in this position.
FullTiltPoker Game #4549444139: Table Wilkes - $0.25/$0.50 - No Limit Hold’em - 22:38:07 ET - 2007/12/18 Seat 3: flydogg007 ($34.05) Seat 4: Chewyjd ($31.75) Seat 6: lifesagrind ($48.50)
Kacori posts the small blind of $0.25 Mr_R_Hand posts the big blind of $0.50 The button is in seat #8
*** HOLECARDS *** Dealt to lifesagrind [Ac As]
tsduo folds flydogg007 raises to $1 Chewyjd calls $1 SkiDooSledder folds lifesagrind raises to $4 jausbrey folds cladower folds Kacori folds Mr_R_Hand folds flydogg007 folds Chewyjd has 15 seconds left to act Chewyjd raises to $31.75, and is all in lifesagrind calls $27.75 Chewyjd shows [Ad 3s] lifesagrind shows [Ac As] *** FLOP *** [2d 4d 5h] *** TURN *** [2d 4d 5h] [Js] *** RIVER *** [2d 4d 5h Js] [Jh] Chewyjd shows a straight, Five high lifesagrind shows two pair, Aces and Jacks Chewyjd wins the pot ($62.25) with a straight, Five high
lifesagrind posts the small blind of $0.25 Ruud27 posts the big blind of $0.50 The button is in seat #2 *** HOLECARDS *** Dealt to lifesagrind [Kd Th] Oak1974 folds jcraw70 calls $0.50 Baschti84 folds Glastoki folds wheaten calls $0.50 lifesagrind calls $0.25 - Seeing a flop here is an easy decision Ruud27 checks
*** FLOP *** [8h 3d Kc] lifesagrind bets $1.50 - Top pair out of position, it’s time to see if I can have this cheaply Ruud27 folds jcraw70 folds wheaten raises to $3 lifesagrind raises to $5.50 - I know, what the hell am I doing. Problem is… he could put me on just about anything here, and I can put him on trying to take this away from me. wheaten calls $2.50 - His call is telling
*** TURN *** [8h 3d Kc] [9h] lifesagrind bets $11 - I have to continue considering my flop play wheaten calls $11 - I know I’m beat here… but I also know he isn’t 100% secure in his hand. Considering my play up to this point I’d have to put him on KJ, maybe KQ
*** RIVER *** [8h 3d Kc 9h] [2d] lifesagrind bets $31.25, and is all in - I have two choices, check and fold, or push. I know he has me beat, but I also know he believes I could have him beat. I take the only reasonable choice left to me… push wheaten has 15 seconds left to act wheaten folds Uncalled bet of $31.25 returned to lifesagrind lifesagrind mucks lifesagrind wins the pot ($33.25)
*** SUMMARY *** Total pot $35 | Rake $1.75 Board: [8h 3d Kc 9h 2d] Seat 2: wheaten (button) folded on the River Seat 3: lifesagrind (small blind) collected ($33.25), mucked
Moral of the story: Playing the player can be more important than playing your cards. (Just don’t get too carried away with it)
By far my most interesting hand since switching to No Limit Cash games this month.
Table Wood Plank - $0.25/$0.50 - No Limit Hold’em Seat 1: anal_yzer85 ($92.45) Seat 2: joepoker77 ($48.25) Seat 3: drchad ($24.50) Seat 4: drossxyu ($80.80) Seat 5: electricladylnd ($49.05) Seat 6: Quickfox7 ($43.15) Seat 7: lifesagrind ($57.70) Seat 8: cashinchecks1 ($36.70) Seat 9: pete1974 ($15.40) electricladylnd posts the small blind of $0.25 Quickfox7 posts the big blind of $0.50 The button is in seat #4 *** HOLECARDS *** Dealt to lifesagrind [5d 5c] - lets see a flop shall we lifesagrind calls $0.50 cashinchecks1 folds pete1974 folds anal_yzer85 folds joepoker77 folds drchad calls $0.50 drossxyu raises to $2.25 electricladylnd folds Quickfox7 folds lifesagrind calls $1.75 drchad calls $1.75 *** FLOP *** [2c 5s 2s] lifesagrind checks - Life doesn’t get any better, let’s see who has what here drchad checks drossxyu bets $4 lifesagrind calls $4 - Please call drchad drchad calls $4 - YES! *** TURN *** [2c 5s 2s] [9c] lifesagrind checks - How bad does the bettor want this drchad checks drossxyu has 15 seconds left to act drossxyu bets $9.75 - ohhhh he likes his hand lifesagrind has 15 seconds left to act lifesagrind raises to $20 - Here’s an amount you can call drchad folds drossxyu calls $10.25 *** RIVER *** [2c 5s 2s 9c] [5h] lifesagrind bets $31.45, and is all in - Smooth and creamy, all you can eat drossxyu calls $31.45 *** SHOWDOWN *** lifesagrind shows [5d 5c] four of a kind, Fives drossxyu mucks lifesagrind wins the pot ($119.40) with four of a kind, Fives *** SUMMARY *** Total pot $122.40 | Rake $3 Board: [2c 5s 2s 9c 5h]
Seat 4: drossxyu (button) mucked [2d 2h] - four of a kind, Twos - Ouch, sucks to be him
Seat 7: lifesagrind showed [5d 5c] and won ($119.40) with four of a kind, Fives
It happens, rarely, but quads over quads is always a guaranteed double up.
In what has been a disastrous week at the tables so far I bring you my first Biggest Loser hand. I’m actually bending the rules a little because this was not my actual biggest losing hand. Exactly two hands after the one listed I lost an entire buy in when preflop I got all in with QQ vs. AA. Chalk that one up to tilt. I also had a winning hand that was slightly more than this losing hand but it was just a case of my having a bigger two pair and a donkey to pay me off.
I find this hand to be a little interesting because I have what looks to be the best hand at first glance. The check raise by my opponent on the flop should have been more of an indication to me what my opponent had, but I locked in on my opponent having a weaker Ace and I blocked out all other possibilities. The turn card locks me in and I’m committed at that point.
My question is this. Did I just get coolered or should I have been able to read my opponents holdings better and been able to get away on the turn?
I’ve become addicted to the cash games now. I find myself whipping through my SNG’s so I can get to playing them. This has lead to some bad play on my part as I’ve ignored my own guidelines for quitting recently. To get back in the groove I’m dropping back to the 25NL games.
In an effort to gain some insight I’m posing this question. Is this a common play from opponents at this level with a flush draw? This seems screwy to me but others at the table berated me for my bad read of the situation. Pleas comment on this.
